Greg's jazz vibes from Orange Tree Samples is very easy to use, and quite musical, even if it doesn't model every aspect of the vibraphone. But as with their pianos, I'm starting to become more aware of certain problems inherent in modeled instruments, affecting how it sits in the mix and how the dynamics get muted when the instrument isn't soloed, so took another look at my recent sample libraries last night. I've been using Pianoteq for awhile, for vibraphone, as it has a nice chime sound that also digs in. I won’t get into all the nuances of EQing, but reducing the mud around 250-350Hz helps too.Maybe even harder than flute to replicate realistically? Try putting an EQ after the piano (routing only the piano to it, no other sounds) and try increases around 5k-10k to get it brighter. OTOH, if you’re comparing the piano to instruments that are already muddy but they sound OK to you (like a muddy organ), it could be anything anywhere in your PA or your PA speakers. If all your other sounds are bright enough in your PA, then the problem is coming from your piano or your piano’s signal path. I don’t own it but Pianoteq should sound good. And I do EQ most of them, not only for matching but to get them to sit in the mix or to fit a particular song or style.
I’ll add the caveat that I’m not primarily a keys player, but I run a few piano patches through C3 in our sets, and I run a ton of other instruments, from synths, organs, guitars to sax and brass sections.
Pianoteq sound vs. acoustic pro#
an electric isn’t really a factor these days… sample players and high quality VSTis changed all that (but if we’re talking about pro recording at 96K then I’d choose a great, real piano and great mics/pres etc.). First, from a practical and gigging standpoint, reproducing an acoustic instrument vs. There’s not really enough info here to know exactly what’s going on. One other thing- I also have an option of running my keyboards through a pair of Electro-voice Zx1 speaker rather than the sound system. I’m also using CFX lite (Yamaha grand) and this does provide a brighter sound than the Pianoteq patches. In a live setting it’s been ok in the past but now I’m not satisfied.
Pianoteq sound vs. acoustic software#
Do you suggest any tweaks such as EQ, particular piano software apps, etc? I use Pianoteq instruments and love the sound for headpones and recording. I’m wondering if others have encountered this. I know some of this is because while the acoustic piano can sound great in headphones, it’s sourced from an acoustic, not electronic sound- i.e., it’s hard to reproduce the original acoustic sound in any electronic setup, but maybe more so because of our less than optimal PA. This was particularly noticable on Ain’t No Sunshine where the first verse is just piano and vocal.
Last night I noticed that my piano sounds were pretty muddy in the mix, not sounding nearly as vibrant as the other sounds I was pumping through the system. It produces good sound for many of my keyboard patches such as EPs (ounge lizard), synth leads and pads, and organ (Hammond Xb3).
While we don’t have an awesome sound system, it suffices for vocals and (electric) drums. I’ve played in live bands over the years and after a pause of a couple, I’m playing with some friends for low-key gatherings- family birthdays, block parties, etc.
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